| Name |
HALSTEAD, Isaac* [6] |
| Birth |
2 May 1763 |
probably Kakiac, Orange County, Colonial New York [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6] |
- S#363 - poss. born New York City, see p.1 of "350 Years of Halsteads..."
LaDonna: Reference gr-gr-gr-grandpa Isaac b.date you had given me below:
Isaac HALSTEAD Sr #1[2May1763 prob. Kakiac - Orange NY to 2Apr1863 Penline PA];
*#1-Hester Halstead Pier. A; N p.8
it appears that contrary to the date "1763" shown by Wardwell in his May 23, 1936 letter, and the information in Seversmith's 1944 manuscript, that in fact in his notes on the same page of the 3-ring note paper mentioned above, he also noted that #363 is "1768 not 1763" so I would suppose this also needs changed [unless you have discovered documentation otherwise in the sources, i.e. Dutch Reformed, etc.]. OR NOT? You know, Wardwell also gave us the date of 4 August 1768 for the birth of #365 Phebe. At this point, I am hesitant to change the birth date of Isaac - - - until there comes to me some indication regarding a change of the birth date of Phebe S#365, and a more credible verification [i.e. birth/death certificate, etc.] of the "1768" date for Isaac.
Do you have any other sources substantiating the b.date? Gary
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Notes from Sandy Hagern: "The 1850 census states Isaac’s age as 83 and Caroline as 80. Both the 1850 & 1860 census were enumerated in August & Sept., so if you use those ages you come up with a birth year of 1767 which would fit for Isaac #2 below. I remember seeing somewhere a discussion on Isaac’s birth year???? If Isaac #2 below is our Isaac it would be consistent with the 1850 & 1860 census, since he is listed in the 26-44 yr range. The 1810 census enumeration date was August 10, 1810. Unfortunately, the 1810 census for Ohio was lost."
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Cousin LaDonna shares: "Gary, Re: Isaac Halstead That is precisely why I haven't changed the birthdate from 1763 to 1768. Unless sister Phoebe is wrong & we have no information about them being twins. I left it 1763. A carelessly written '3' can look like an'8' very easily & vice-versa. My sources remain the same. Other than Wardwell & Hester (wonder if she is still with us) I have two LDS sources entered that I put very little stock in.
You know there is an Isaac Halstead (#414) b- 17 Jul 1768 m-Mary Jane Jones b-10 Feb 1773. He was the son of Jacob Halstead & Rachel Smith.
Source:
Hester (letter)
Early Orange Co NY Will p243
Halstead Bible Records (LI Hist. Soc.)
Maybe that is the source of the confusion of year dates?? I still go with a poorly written '3'.
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"Bible & Family Records Trumball Co, Ohio"; HALSTEAD pgs.341-347 - p.342 "Halstead of the New Paltz N.Y. and Johnston County, Ohio Family" cites "Bible record dates" and lists Isaac's birth as 2 May 1763.
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| Residence |
Abt 1780 |
Warwick Twp, Orange County, New York |
| Census |
1800 |
Warwick Twp, Orange County, New York [7] |
| Miscellaneous |
Abt 1802 |
Warwick Twp, Orange County, New York [8] |
| death Elizabeth 1st wife [Secor] Halstead |
- benchmark date - guesstimate based on childrens birth data.
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| Religion |
28 Jun 1805 |
Warwick Twp, Orange County, New York [9] |
| Presbyterian Church at Warwick |
Census |
1810 |
Warwick Twp, Orange County, New York [10] |
- Cousin Sandy Hagen write: "With this listing of children, it makes the case for the 1810 census of Isaac in Warwick, Orange Co., New York. Remember, there was a missing daughter, but his age was under 44. Which make 3 censuses in agreement with the 1768 birth year." which references two [2] quandaries regarding Isaac Halsted. The 1st being that all census data points to a 1768 vs 1763 date of birth for Isaac, and the 2nd addressing Isaac's where about in 1810, bearing in mind the comment of Art Wardwell in his 1936 letter to Ernest Wileder Halstead where Wardwell states Isaac was in the 1810 census for Johnston township, Trumbull Co., OH - - - I believe that cousin Sandy is correct in her conclusion that Isaac and Caroline were in Warwick for that year's census count. GAH 28 Jul 2003
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| Residence |
Bef 1811 |
Monroe, Orange County, New York [11, 12] |
- or was this individual actually Isaac Jr. who would have been 22 years of age when an Isaac Hulsted shows on the 1820 census?
|
| Baptism |
12 Apr 1811 |
New Paltz, New Paltz Twp, Ulster County, New York [9, 13] |
- Wardwell letter 23 May 1936 states Isaac was a Deacon in the Presbyterian church at Warwick, Orange Co., NY and were made members of the church at New Paltz, Ulster County, NY 12 Apr 1811.
See 'Sources' indicated Dutch Reformed Church of Warwick
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| Gender |
Male |
| Miscellaneous |
29 Jun 1814 |
New Paltz, New Paltz Twp, Ulster County, New York [14] |
| mentioned in inquest of TeunisTerwilegar |
- "Inquest (29 Jun 1814) at New Palts on the body of Teunis Terwilegar who on 28 Jun, died as a result of drinking too much liqour, on road near the house of Isaac Halsted."
|
Census |
7 Aug 1820 |
Johnston Twp, Trumbull County, Ohio, USA [15] |
- Database: 1820 United States Federal Census [as of 7 Aug 1820]
Hulsted, Isaac
State: New York Year: 1820
County: Orange Roll: M33_64
Township: Monroe Page: 279
Image: 281
Forshee, Barney
State: New York Year: 1820
County: Orange Roll: M33_64
Township: Monroe Page: 283
Image: 285
Forshee, Isaac
State: New York Year: 1820
County: Orange Roll: M33_64
Township: Monroe Page: 283
Image: 285
Forshee, John
State: New York Year: 1820
County: Orange Roll: M33_64
Township: Monroe Page: 283
Image: 285
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In a message to cousin Sandy I proposed: "I believe that it is fairly well established that Isaac was at Warwick probably from 1780 to 1810 when we feel we have placed him with the census. And Isaac and Carolyn had moved to New Paltz where they "were made members of the church at New Paltz, Ulster County, NY 12 Apr 1811." We are then told "Isaac and Caroline Halsted received their letter of formal dismissal from the Dutch Reformed Church at New Paltz 20 May 1816, when they removed to Ohio" - per Grace Wiinagle I believe it possible that further research may reveal that "Hulsted, Isaac" showing on the 1820 may actually be 22 year old Isaac Halsted Jr. And sister Hannah may even have been living with her brother Isaac at that time...What do you think?"
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Gary ~ Hi, how are you? Are you feeling better? I hope so. I was entering the discrepancies for Grdpa Isaac in my database and have discovered that I will have to eat crow concerning Isaac’s immigration to Ohio. I rechecked the census records from 1800-1830. There are three Isaac Halsteads listed in the 1800 census, one in Newburgh, one in Cheesecoches (later named Monroe) and one in Warwick. These three Isaac’s are listed in the 1810 census in the same places. Then in the 1820 census the Isaac in Warwick disappears, but the other two remain in Newburgh and Monroe. By 1830 the only one remaining is the Isaac of Newburgh.
Remember it was the 1820 census for Monroe that I kept thinking was our Isaac and you said he might not have ever been in Monroe, well now I think that Isaac was probably the one in the 1800 and 1810 census for Monroe. I went back and checked the census for Johnston Twp, Trumbull County, Ohio for 1820. I kept passing over the Isaac Hadsel listed below, because I thought our Isaac was still in New York.
I checked the transcription of the last names with ancestry.com and genealogy.com and they had the same transcriptions. These were also transcribed in the order they were found on the page. I would like to know if you think that Isaac Hadsel is indeed our Isaac Halstead. Isaac Hadsel only turns up in this one census record at genealogy.com. Since I think you will come to the same conclusion I did I will go find a crow to have for lunch and apologize for my pig-headness. But………..of course this leaves me with another question. Was the Hannah Halstead who married Abraham Forshee really the daughter of our Isaac or the Isaac who was in Monroe from 1800-1820, he does have a daughter that would fit Hannah and the families are on the same census page in the 1810 census. If she isn’t (our Isaac’s daughter) it would explain why there was a daughter missing in the 1810 census for our Isaac, why Grace Winnagle had no listing in her book for Hannah and why Martha Charlotte’s statement mentions only one Aunt.
Do you have an Isaac Halstead who settled in Monroe from about 1800-1820, I haven’t found one yet. In the 1800 census the oldest male is listed in the 26-44 age range, then another male 16-25 (maybe a brother?!?!?). Let me know if you want the rest of the years. Thanks and take care of yourself. ~ Sandy
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| Census |
1830 |
Johnston Twp, Trumbull County, Ohio, USA [16] |
Census |
1 Jun 1840 |
Johnston Twp, Trumbull County, Ohio, USA [17] |
- Gary ~ I have been searching for Grandpa’s Isaac, David D. and Philetus in the 1840 census for months and finally hit pay dirt today. I believe I found all three ;~) ! The trouble with the census from 1840 back is they list only the heads of households so it is difficult to be sure. I found them all in Johnston Twp, Trumbull Co., Ohio. Anyway, I came up with another puzzler for you ;~)
I have always thought it was odd that Betsy & David that they did not have their first child sooner than they did. All the information I have says they had 10 children. Here’s the puzzler:
1840 Census lists in David’s household:
20-30yrs – 1male (probably David)
70-80yrs - 1 male (possibly Isaac as I found him nowhere else)
Under 5yrs – 3 females (fits with his first three children)
5-10yrs – 1 female (puzzler)
20-30yrs – 1 female (probably Betsy)
60-70yrs – 1 female (possibly Caroline)
|
Census |
1 Jun 1850 |
Greensburg, Trumbull County, Ohio [16] |
- Sandy Hagen reports: "In the 1850 census for Isaac Halstead he is with his son John in Johnston Township, Trum,bull Co., age 83."
|
| Living |
1 Jun 1860 |
Leadsville, Beaver Twp, Crawford County, Pennsylvania [18, 19] |
- Wardwell states: "In 1860 [he] was living with his son John at Leadsville, Beaver Township, Pa. then aged 93 according to the census, but at least 96 probably"
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Sandy Hagen advises us: "Correction: This should read Post Office: Meadville, Beaver Township, Crawford Co., PA. If you want to be really technical the page that John & Isaac are listed on doesn’t have the post office name on it, but the pages before and after do, along with the rest of the township pages " and she includes a map of Crawford County, and Meadville
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Isaac Holstead 93 M rent farm NY
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| Centenarian |
2 Apr 1863 |
Pennline, Crawford County, Pennsylvania |
| Ninty-nine years and eleven months |
| Name |
Isaac Halsted [20] |
| _UID |
44994E9A1C1D9A45852D1DAE7812FD5E3F32 |
| Death |
2 Apr 1863 |
Pennline, Crawford County, Pennsylvania [21, 22] |
- Isaac place of death may have been Pennline, PA per Hester Halstead Pier, and Wardwell's letter to Ernest Wileder Halstead on 23 May 1936.
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| Person ID |
I30 |
Garys-Tree |
| Last Modified |
4 Feb 2024 |
| Father |
HALSTEAD, Thomas * [5], b. 5 Feb 1726/27, Tappan, Rockland County, Colonial New York d. 31 Oct 1806, New Paltz, New Paltz Twp, Ulster County, New York (Age 79 years) |
| Mother |
BOGARDUS, Phebe Margaret "Maricha", b. 10 Aug 1729, Harlem, [originally Nieuw Haarlem - 1658 Dutch] Manhatten, New York d. 23 Oct 1793, New Paltz, New Paltz Twp, Ulster County, New York (Age 64 years) |
| Marriage |
2 Feb 1748/49 |
Orange County, Colonial New York |
- Information from John A. Halstead gedcom: He also cites, for Thomas Halstead:
1. Genealogical Magazine of New Jersey, vol.39, pages 67-70
Genealogies of the first settlers of Albany pages 20-21
Colonial Families of Long Island, New York and Connecticut, Vol.3
2. DAR Patriot Index - Centennial Edition - 1994 and for Phoebe's birth:
1. NYG&B Record, vol.9, p.84
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Dear "Cousins":
My original intent was to send this e-mail to just our correspondents that have claimed descent from a direct male line of Bogardus or Brower/Brewer ancestry. The more I thought about it, I felt that this information would be of potential interest to others and I am thus sending this with "Bcc" hidden addresses to you and by "snail" mail to others because of your interest in genealogy.
DNA genealogy has been around for a number of years and is becoming much more popular as a means of not only determining your own "deep" ancestral origins of perhaps 10,000 to 20,000 years ago (or more) but to also determine or confirm a descent from an earliest known male ancestor, perhaps 10-12 generations past. Even though, by family research, I have proven my own male ancestry back to Evert Willemsz, a.k.a. Evert Bogaert, a.k.a. Everardus Bogardus of Woerden, Holland, b. 1607, Prof. Willem Th. M. Frijhoff of Rotterdam, The Netherlands, has determined that his brother Cornelis also had male children and grandchildren. Therefore, I decided to have my "genealogical" Y-DNA on file and in a master database in the event a male Bogaert in The Netherlands, or elsewhere, (or by perhaps another name) may someday have his genealogical Y-DNA taken with the possibility that his and mine will very closely match - thus proving that we are both descendants of Willem Cornelisz., the father of both Evert and his brother Cornelis. My Bogardus/Bogaert Y-DNA 37 marker test (the first by any member of the Bogardus family) has shown that I am from Haplogroup "I1a" (that's "eye" "one" "a"). Haplogroup "I", which is a European Haplogroup, represents nearly one-fifth of the European population and it is almost non-existent outside of Europe, suggesting that it arose in Europe approximately 20,000 years ago. "I1a" is a subclade of Haplogroup "I" and is estimated to be 15,000 - 20,000 years old. According to the Genographic Project, the founder of the "I1a" branch lived on the Iberian Peninsula (i.e., present day Spain, Portugal, Gibraltar, etc.) during the last Glacial Maximum. Their children have formed subpopulations and many "I1a" members trace their ancestry to Scandinavia, British Isles, Germany, Netherlands and beyond.
I became interested in DNA genealogy as a result of my assistance to others regarding their Brouwer/Brower/Brewer ancestry and some receiving this e-mail have already had their Y-DNA taken and are included in a growing Brower/Brewer database. In our 1996 "Dear Cousin" book, under the Chapter "Most Frequent Errors and Incorrect or Unproven Lines of Descent from Anneke Jans", pp. 48-49, I concluded that a "John Brewer", b. 1733, long believed to be a descendant of Anneke Jans, was NOT a descendant of Everardus Bogardus and Anneke Jans through the Brouwer family line of descent. Without going into further detail, Dr. Richard Brewer, a prominent genetic genealogy advocate, proposed in Oct. 2006 that he would undertake to write an article for publication about his findings and how it would also relate to the "John Brewer" example of non-descent from Jacobus Brouwer and Anna Bogardus. He requested whether I and one other would agree to be co-authors of the article he would write, with our input and approval. We both agreed and, after many exchanges of comments with the Editor, the article was published in the October 2007 issue of "The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record", pp. 245-249, under the title: "DNA Analysis: Adam Brouwer Berckhoven, Elias Brouwer of New Jersey, and John Brewer of Ohio", by Richard D. Brewer PhD., Scott Kraus and William B. Bogardus. A continued article, pp. 250-260, by the Editor of the Record, and others, on "Jan Brouwer of Flatlands and Descendants" is also included. If you can obtain a copy of this issue of the Record, it will explain much more, in detail, how DNA genealogy has solved the correct ancestry of John Brewer - being descended from Jan Brouwer of Flatlands rather than Adam Brouwer Berckhoven of Brooklyn. This is just one example of many such analyses that can now prove or disprove one's "family research" by Y-DNA testing. You may also wish to visit Dr. Brewer's website for further information at http://web.mac.com/brewpe/iWeb/JanBrouwerDNA.
While the primary purpose of this message is to encourage present living male Bogardus and Brower or Brewer family members to consider having their Y-DNA 37 marker test taken, by contacting www.familytreedna.com, the same encouragement is extended to all male family members - of any surname - to have your Y-DNA test taken for YOUR OWN PURPOSE, having no direct line descent from Bogardus, Brower or Brewer. Keep in mind that this is not a "medical" DNA test. The Y-DNA test is the result of a relatively recent scientific breakthrough in genetics that provide tools that can establish a statistically valid demonstration of common male ancestry relationships back 10 or 12 generations through the unique father to son faithful transmittal of the male Y-chromosome. The cost of the Y-DNA 37 marker test cost is $189.00 if ordered under the Flanders-Flemish DNA Surname Project (identifying Evert Bogaert as the earliest ancestor) or the Brewer DNA Surname Project (for an identified Brower or Brewer ancestor) but there are also 12 and 24 marker tests that cost less; however these tests are considerably less definitive and in all probability would require further testing to the next level to screen out the vast majority of unrelated familial connections. The Y-DNA 37 marker test is thus the best to not only determine "deep" ancestral origins but to identify others most closely related - which can then be contacted. There is also a Y-DNA 67 marker test that can be obtained but is not recommended as the initial test. For Bogardus members, your Haplogroup will undoubtedly be "I1a" but the specific markers and values will be slightly different especially since some are descended from Cornelius, the second son of Everardus; and others from Peter, the fourth son.
These tests, together with actual family research, by same-surname male family members (the more the better) will help to establish a database that will permit later members of uncertain ancestry to have their Y-DNA (12, 24 or 37) marker test taken to determine their more probable lineage from a common (but unnamed) great (or great-great - - - -) grandfather, grand-uncle, etc. within descending generations. For females (and males who may so desire) the origins of their maternal line, including deep ancestral ethnicity, can be obtained by a separate mtDNA test for $129.00.
If you have not already participated in DNA genealogy, for your family's genealogical posterity, I hope you will consider encouraging a current male family member to have his Y-DNA 37 marker test taken by contacting www.familytreedna.com. It is an exciting new dimension to your "family tree"!
Warm Regards, To All,
William B. Bogardus
Along this same line, as of Mar 2008 two direct descendants of Margaret Phebe [Bogardu] Halstead have had the 37 marker Y-DNA testing completed at Family Tree DNA under the "Halste[a]d" surname group, along with numerous of descendants of the early Halstead immigrants from England, and also several members of the family from England have joined the group and have had their 37 marker tests completed also.
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| Family ID |
F16 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
| Family 1 |
LINKLETTER, Caroline - 2nd wife -, b. 2 Apr 1772, prob New York d. 27 Jan 1854, Johnston Twp, Trumbull County, Ohio, USA (Age 81 years) |
| Marriage |
Bef Oct 1803 |
Warwick Twp, Orange County, New York |
- appx date, marriage assumed must have been 9 months prior to birth of Sarah Marie, but after birth of Hannah [22Aug1802]
|
| Children |
| | 1. HALSTEAD, Samuel I. Linkletter [7], b. (16 Apr 1808/9), Orange County, New York, USA d. 21 Dec 1893, Goldendale, Klickitat County, Washington  |
| | 2. HALSTEAD, Sarah Marie or Meyer, b. 26 Jul 1804, Orange County, New York, USA d. 1888 (Age 83 years) |
| | 3. HALSTEAD, Benjamin H. Linkletter [baby], b. 31 Jan 1806, Warwick Twp, Orange County, New York d. 19 Sep 1807, Warwick Twp, Orange County, New York (Age 1 year) |
| | 4. HALSTEAD, Charles W. Hardenburgh [7], b. 9 Oct 1807, Warwick Twp, Orange County, New York  |
| | 5. HALSTEAD, Reverend David Demaree* [7], b. 24 Feb 1811, New Paltz, New Paltz Twp, Ulster County, New York d. 3 Dec 1887, West Ft. Dodge, Webster County, Iowa (Age 76 years) |
| | 6. HALSTEAD, Daniel [baby], b. 18 Aug 1814, New Paltz, New Paltz Twp, Ulster County, New York d. 24 Jun 1816 (Age 1 year) |
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| Family ID |
F15 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
| Last Modified |
7 Feb 2024 |
| Family 2 |
SECOR, Elizabeth - 1st wife -, b. 15 Jun 1766 d. 1858 (Age 91 years) |
| Marriage |
9 Mar 1789 |
Orange County, New York, USA [23] |
- apparantly Isaac married 1st, his 1st cousin Elizabeth Secor, daughter of his aunt Rebecca [Halstead] and uncle David Secor. Isaac and Elizabeth shared common grandparents in Jacob and Sarah [Coolman] Halstead.
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| Children |
| | 1. HALSTEAD, James, b. 29 Jul 1792, Warwick Twp, Orange County, New York d. 28 Feb 1822 (Age 29 years) |
| | 2. HALSTEAD, George, b. 22 Aug 1794, Orange County, New York, USA d. 4 Feb 1849, Warwick Twp, Orange County, New York (Age 54 years) |
| | 3. HALSTEAD, John [7], b. 2 Mar 1796, Orange County, New York, USA d. 6 Dec 1885, Colebrook, Ashtabula County, Ohio (Age 89 years) |
| | 4. HALSTEAD, Isaac Jr., b. 25 Apr 1798, New Paltz, New Paltz Twp, Ulster County, New York  |
| | 5. HALSTEAD, Hannah, b. 22 Aug 1802, Orange County, New York, USA d. 12 Jun 1865 (Age 62 years) |
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| Family ID |
F18 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
| Last Modified |
7 Feb 2024 |