- S#114 - initially shown "b. 9 Dec 1723" and believed born at Rye, Westchester County, NY
A.M. Halstead states in his 'direct lineage' that this individual [Thomas] "b. 10 Mar 1723 on Rye, Long Island Sound. His wife was Phebe Bogardus, 10 Aug 1729. Thomas Halstead's father was Thomas Halstead [Sr.] the first in New York. He was a sailor and came from Europe in 1674. His wife was Jeanette Smith, a daughter of Admiral Aaron Smith of Manchester, England. The old Halstead name was Halland on E.Bk[?[of Cattery at Srend [?] Sweden" - A.N.Halstead, West Lafayette Ind. Gard [guard?] John Chaver, Monumental Works Cos. 8th & Main Streets, Lafayette, Ind. Donna Deavers states ..."A.N. Halstead..." "This is a copy with our great grandmothers letter concerning our ancestors." On the back, reads: "DAR Patriot Index- Centenial Edition Part 2 G-O p1284 Thomas Halsted b-1724 NY d-10-31-1808 NY Pvt NY married Phoebe Bogardus." Deavers also states: > "From DAR Thomas Halstead Oct 8 1729- July 21 1807 Revolutionary soldier of nine children only 3 names are available."
See pages 47-48 of W.L.Halstead's "The Story of the Halsteads of the United States"
Genealogist Hester Halstead Pier, based on notation Wardwell made in her copy of Seversmith [and verified by John Preston Halstead that Wardwell's correction also appears in his copy], states this Thomas is "not" the son of James; but in fact is the son of Jacob and Sarah Coolman. The suggested birth date and place is also given by Hester as "5 Feb 1726/7 at Tappan, [Rockland County], New York."
Gary, Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 05:08:40 EDT I sent you my last message without reading your second one. I was in touch with Hester H. Pier from 1991 to 1996 but not since. Yes, she was working with Wardwell's papers then, but since she developed hip problems, I'm not sure if she can get to Brooklyn. Her father, incidentally corresponded with Wardwell. If she thinks that Thomas was the son of Jacob and Sarah Coolman, she probably got it from Seversmith. See pp.1237.1 and 1247 where, in my copy there are marginal notes in Art Wardwell's handwriting equating Thomas 114 with Thomas 65, baptized in 1726/7, incidentally , so probably not born in 1723. Regards, John [Preston Halstead]]
"Colton & Closely Related Families" 1979 by V.C. Halstead, p.12 notes added 15 Apr 2002 - Vera Colton Halstead [1888-1980]
"Jacob's oldest son, but 3rd child, was Thomas. He was baptized at the dutch Reformed Church, Tappen, NY May 21, 1727. One record said he was born Feb 5, 1726. This was when his father was of "New Hempstead" but his mother had been spoken of, in the marriage record, as 'of Haverstraw' [so-called as early as 1722]. The distinction between New Hempstead, also called Kakiak, and Haverstraw is confusing, but Haverstraw was the northwestern section of Kakiak Precinct, then in Orange County and where Mr. Wardwell thinks Thomas spent most of his life. Now that section of the original Orange County lies in what is known as Rockland County and the county seat is New City, while that of Orange County is Goshen [if one is looking for land and probate records as I was June 3 & 4, 1959]. "We know Thomas married Phoebe Margaret Bogardus [Feb 2, 1748/9 is one date given] but we would like to know where to establish her illustrious parentage. No doubt she was a great-granddaughter of Domini Everardus Bogardus of the first church in New Amsterdam but the record of her birth has not been found. The story of the possible link to the claim to the fabulous valuable property of Trinity Church, NYC & vicinity will come later. [Note: See W.L. Halstead's "Story of the Halsteads of the United States", pgs 47-48; "Three Hundred and Fifty Years of Halsteads in America", pgs. 86-89,"The Family Halstead", p.21] In 1982, when I was working on "350 Years...", I was in contact with Wm B. Bogardus of Arizona, who is a member of the "Bogardus Assoc." and still has not been able to confirm this alleged lineage of Phoebe Margaret Bogardus. LaDonna English write us: "Got a newsletter from the Bogardus Assn. Bill is presently working on the 6th & 7th generation book. Totally over whelming! We are talking about 15, 000 to 20,000 descendents & spouses with "perhaps nearly one quarter of a million items of information"... This is verifiable information only. So much was made up by those unscrupulous lawyers years back, which doesn't make the task any easier. He & his wife are considering taking out a 2nd mortgage on their house to adequately fund this task. LE :)"
At my request, John Preston Halstead studied my report, response to his e-mail regarding this lineage: On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 08:58:00 ESTJohn Preston Halstead writes: Gary,
In response to your Intro letter, I've laid out your descent from James 4 (do I have it right?) alongside mine, and it turns out we're 6th cousins. John"
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> Jonas 1 1611-1682/83
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> Timothy 2 ca.1636-1703
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> Jonas 3 1673-ca.1726
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> James 4 ca.1700-1738+
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> Thomas 5 1726/7-1806 Timothy 5 ca.1730-1786
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> Isaac 6 1763-1863 (Wow!) Joseph 6 1758-1845
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> David Demaree 7 1811-1887 John Preston 7 1790-1848
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> Orange Billings 8 1846-1930 Nathaniel 8 1813-1869
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> Asa David 9 1871-1970 John Preston 9 1849-1888
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> Chas. Wileder 10 1916-1975 John Preston 10 1886-1951
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> Gary Allen 11 1941- John Preston 11 1923-
On Fri, Dec 31st, 1999, I vowed to attempt to put to rest the issue of the parentage of the Thomas Halstead that Seversmith assigned the number of individual #114 in his manuscripts. A record of that process and e-mails addressed to fellow genealogists and cousins, John Preston Halstead and LaDonna English regarding this subject and their responses follow: "John: [cc: LaDonna]
If you had asked me a year ago - - - I would have said yes, you have it right - - - now even I am uncertain which lineage applies [I still have to resolve the parentage of Thomas to my complete satisfaction - where I feel comfortable in saying either way, that "yes" this IS the correct lineage and parentage of Thomas Halstead who married Phoebe Margaret Bogardus. Until such time, this is the lineage [as shown below] that has been of record since Seversmith's manuscript & W.L.'s book will be the one I intend to stick with. However, I feel that that criteria, may well have been met [pending any evidence which would warrant a reversal]. I would like to bounce this off you [John & LaDonna] to see if my reasoning, conclusion, and explanation is sound; before sharing with anyone else. I welcome your feedback. Thanks, Gary
I wonder, are you, or anyone else in the group familiar with a V.C. Halstead that wrote "Colton & Closely Related Families" 1972? Anyway, the following is from p.12 of that work, and would lend credence to the thought that our Thomas was Jacob's son rather than James; however, the quote has several 'questionable' statements. Example: Speaking of Thomas, "In 1790 [census] he was of Haverstraw where he had, besides 2 slaves, one son over 16 and one under 16 and 2 daughters [Anna and Sarah]. The rest of his family, 4 sons and 3 daughters had married and gone elsewhere to live except possibly his daughter Margaret." In 1790, Thomas' youngest son "Smith" b.10 February 1773 would have been 17 years of age, and his next older brother Jonah or Jonas, according to Claude Halstead and Hester in "Outline Guide...", and in Hester's 1999 "update" state that this brother m. in 1789 at age 24 and removed south [in one reference] and to Pennsylvania [in the other reference]. Also, by 1790 Anna would have been 29 and Sarah 19 or 20 That aside, the quotation as setout below may be plausible, and may be the final straw that breaks the camel's back and persuades us to accept this proposed change in the lineage.
"Colton & Closely Related Families" 1979 by V.C. Halstead, p.12
"Jacob's oldest son, but 3rd child, was Thomas. He was baptized at the dutch Reformed Church, Tappen, NY May 21, 1727. One record said he was born Feb 5, 1726. This was when his father was of "New Hempstead" but his mother had been spoken of, in the marriage record, as 'of Haverstraw' [so-called as early as 1722]. The distinction between New Hempstead, also called Kakiak, and Haverstraw is confusing, but Haverstraw was the northwestern section of Kakiak Precinct, then in Orange County and where Mr. Wardwell thinks Thomas spent most of his life. Now that section of the original Orange County lies in what is known as Rockland County and the county seat is New City, while that of Orange County is Goshen [if one is looking for land and probate records as I was June 3 & 4, 1959].
"We know Thomas married Phoebe Margaret Bogardus [Feb 2, 1748/9 is one date given] but we would like to know where to establish her illustrious parentage. No doubt she was a great-granddaughter of Domini Everardus Bogardus of the first church in New Amsterdam but the record of her birth has not been found. The story of the possible link to the claim to the fabulous valuable property of Trinity Church, NYC & vicinity will come later." [Gary's Note: See W.L. Halstead's "Story of the Halsteads of the United States", pgs 47-48; "Three Hundred and Fifty Years of Halsteads in America", pgs. 86-89,"The Family Halstead", p.21] In 1982, when I was working on "350 Years...", I was in contact with Wm B. Bogardus of Arizona, who is a member of the "Bogardus Assoc." and still has not been able to confirm this alleged lineage of Phoebe Margaret Bogardus. LaDonna English write us: "Got a newsletter from the Bogardus Assn. Bill is presently working on the 6th & 7th generation book. Totally over whelming! We are talking about 15,000 to 20,000 descendents & spouses with "perhaps nearly one quarter of a million items of information"... This is verifiable information only. So much was made up by those unscrupulous lawyers years back, which doesn't make the task any easier. He & his wife are considering taking out a 2nd mortgage on their house to adequately fund this task. LE :)"] Quoting further - - -
"Thomas was a Revolutionary War soldier 'living at Kakiak' (Precinct) "New York Men in the Revolution". p 254. "In 1790 (census) he was at Haverstraw where he had, besides 2 slaves, one son over 16 and one under 16 and 2 daughters (Anna and Sarah). The rest of his family, 4 sons and 3 daughters had married and gone elsewhere to live except possibly his daughter Margaret. She is said to have married Joseph Briggs in 1780, yet on May 2,1791, while still of 'New Hempstead, Orange County' Thomas deeds to his daughter, 'Margaret of the same place' a little 5 year old negro girl, named "Cate".
"On Oct 3,1786, Thomas Halsted is 'Of Haverstraw Precinct' and borrows £40 against his 56 acres, a piece of land which is described in the land deeds and a map given, showing it to the south of the land of Jonah Halsted (5,son of Jonah4). He paid interest each year until 1792, according to Mr. Wardwell, when it was paid in full.
"By July 12,1792 Thomas Hallsted and his wife Phobe Margaret (whom in this deed is called for the first time, Margritt) along with his son, John and his wife, Sara (Meyer) had bought in the Marbletown section of the town of New Paltz, Ulster County NY. New Paltz was an old town settled before 1700. In 1799 he is spoken of again as of 'Town of Marbletown, New Paltz' in reference to the same land. "His wife died Oct 24,1797 (or 1793) 'near Poughkeepsic'. Poughkeepsic was just across the Hudson River, reached by ferry. "An assessment record, taken in 1798, of the property owners in New Paltz describes Thomas as living on the road from Paltz to Baker's Landing in the section now known as Lloyd in a wooden house in poor condition, size 28 by 20, with four windows. But he had 138 acres, a barn, saw mill and a grist mill. His son John lived next door and he and Jacob had better houses, Jacob, a stone one. John was not Paul's ancestor, but Edward, again, the oldest son.
"Thomas made his will at New Paltz on April 8,1801 but this was not probated until Nov. 22, 1806. In this he gave his farm to his youngest son, Smith and mentioned his eight living children including Edward and Jonas whom he calls Jonah.
"His sons, Jacob & Smith, submitted an inventory of his estate describing articles of clothing and notes due him. After his wife's death he must have given away most of his household possessions."
I have not, as of yet, found the time to pursue this further by contacting the Orange County Clerk's office. I should like to know more about this V.C. Halstead, who he or she is and how credible this information is. I have "provisionally" assigned Thomas and Phoebe to Jacob and Sarah [Coolman] Halstead's family to be in sync with the generations as show by Claude and Hester I have agonized on this quandary for quite a few months now - - - weighing the evidence we were presented by Seversmith, et al - - - and the probabilities. On three ring note binder paper are inscribed notes for changes to specific individuals in Seversmith's manuscripts. A close comparison of the handwriting with that known to be Arthur Wardwell on other correspondence leaves "little" doubt but that Mr. Wardwell is the author of these notes. Notes which include:
a. "114. Thomas not son of James, son of Jacob and Sarah [Coolman]
Halstead" This, combined with the above analysis of information provided from "Colton & Closely Related Families" and what appear to be Mr. Wardwell's own pen changes in a copy of Seversmith's manuscript would seem to verify Claude and Hester's conclusion in swapping Thomas #65 and Thomas #114 [the later being the one who married Phoebe Margaret
Bogardus]. In consideration of the changes in so very many genealogies and family trees this effects, I herewith remove my "provisional" placement of Thomas S#114 with the family of Jacob and Sarah [Coolman], and in the months to come will attempt to follow up on the changes in these two lines with regard to the placement of the children effected in this change.
This change effects the descendants of Thomas and Phoebe Margaret [Bogardus] Halstead in replacing the individual in the 3rd generation [Jonas]] with his brother [Timothy Jr.], and the 4th generation ancestor of this line changes then from [James] to his cousin [Jacob and Sarah Coolman Halstead].
From: John Preston Halstead To: Gary Halstead Cc: LaDonna English
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 17:47:21 EST
"Gary, In reply to yours of 12/31 3:43 PM, I'm not familiar with V.C.Halstead or his(her?) work. Your extremely well crafted argument about the descent from Timothy 2 to Thomas 5 who mar. Phoebe Bogardus is very persuasive. I agree with you that we are almost driven to go along with the corrections made by Art Wardwell in the Seversmith ms. in this case. My
descent from Jonas 3 through James 4 and Timothy 5 is on far shakier ground, as Wardwell
himself acknowledged. I'm afraid I can't be of any more help than this, except to note that in
your last paragraph you say that Wardwell gave us the date of 04 Aug.1768 for the birth of
#365 (Phebe A.). In my copy of the Seversmith ms., Wardwell had changed the date to 1765. And he also changed Jonah's(#364) to 1763. I hope you're feeling better. John"
WILL OF JACOB HALSTEAD OF NEW HEMPSTEAD, N.Y.
Page 160 - "In the name of God, Amen. I, Jacob Halstead, of New Hempstead, in Orange County, being weak in body, September 23, 1756. I leave to my son Thomas 100 acres of land off the east end of my homestead. I leave to my son Isaac 100 acres, next east of Thomas Halstead. I leave to my son Henry 100 acres, next east of Isaac Halstead. I leave to my son Daniel 100 acres of land, being the west part of where I now dwell. I leave to my daughter, Helena Seaman, 20 [lbs. sterling]. To my daughter, Rebecca Secor, 20 [lbs. sterling]. I leave to John Halstead 25 [lbs sterling] when he is of age. To my son Abraham 25 [lbs. sterling] when of age. To my son Timothy 25 [lbs. sterling] when of age. To my son Jacob I leave all that lot of land where he now dwells, being 73 acres, Also the Dry Swamp lot that belongs to me, being 30 acres. I leave to my daughter, Sarah Halstead, 25 [lbs sterling]. To my daughter Abigail 25 [lbs sterling]. I leave to my wife Sarah all movable estate and the use of 100 acres of land of the west part of my homestead. I leave to my eldest son Thomas 8 shillings for his claim as heir at law. All the rest of my lands in Orange County, divided and undivided, I leave to my sons and daughters. I make my son Thomas, my friend, John Coe, and my kinsman, Jonah Halstead, son of Jonah, all of New Hempstead, executors."
Witnesses, Jacoubus Springsteen, miller, John Halstead, farmer, Gershom Rose. Proved, in New York December 10, 1756. Note. - Jacob Halstead was one of the colony from Hempstead, L.I., who in 1717 purchased the north half of the Patent of Kakiak, In
Rockland County, and called their settlement "New Hempstead". For a more complete account see History of Rockland Co., N.Y. - W.S.P. My 2 Feb 2000 response re: birth date of Thomas: "****** Ken, you are right, this causes a conflict between his birth in 1723 and sibling Helena [also shown as born 1723], as you have stated. In her latest listing of the 1st Five Generations, updated by Hester Halstead Pier, she lists this Thomas' data regarding his birth as "b. 5 Feb 1726/7 Tappan, NY" - - - this would be in agreement with "Colton & Closely Related Families" 1979 by V.C. Halstead, p.12
"Jacob's oldest son, but 3rd child, was Thomas. He was baptized
at the dutch Reformed Church, Tappen, NY May 21, 1727. One
record said he was born Feb 5, 1726. This was when his father was
of "New Hempstead" but his mother had been spoken of, in the
marriage record, as 'of Haverstraw'..."
- - - this would clear the conflict you mention. But I personally had not made that change pending further research - - - note my original message indicates more information will be forthcoming, after further study....
"and in the months to come will attempt to follow up on the changes
in these two lines with regard to the placement of the children effected
in this change."
However, I am inclined to agree that if Thomas was indeed Jacob's son, which it appears he was, then the "5 Feb 1726/7 at Tappan, NY' would seem to fit and be most probable."
ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION:
From:John Preston Halstead
To: Ken Erd; Ben Halsted
Date: Thursday, August 17, 2000 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: THE THOMAS CONUNDRUM
Dear Ken,
Perhaps I can do a little to clarify where your brother may have found his information. And I'd
appreciate it if you or Ben would forward this to the Halstead Group list because I'm having
beau coup trouble with my computer and wiped out my address book.
In the Seversmith Ms., p.1247, Art Wardwell's ms. correction, made sometime AFTER his letter to me of August 1958 (see below for this letter), changed #114 to #65, i.e.., the Thomas 5 Halstead who married Phebe Bogardus was actually the son of Jacob 4 (#15) and Sarah Coolman (pp.1237.1 and 1230).
This Thomas 5 was born ca.1726/27, bapt. Tappan, NY, 05 Sept.1726/27 (p.1237.1); died
Nov.1806 (p.1230); mar. 02 Feb.1748/49 Phebe Bogardus, b. 10 Aug.1729, d. -?-, dau. of Peter Bogardus(p. 1247). Unfortunately, Wardwell neglected to cross out Phebe Bogardus' name after Thomas 5 (#114), the son of James 4 (#33) on p.1233, which is part of the reason for the confusion.
The other Thomas 5 (#114), son of James 4 (#33), was born 09 Dec.1723. It is not known when he died or whom he married. His children MAY be those listed in the Sev. Ms. p.1237.1 under Thomas 5 (#65). I can't tell you much more about these Thomases because I don't keep track of collateral lines. And I sincerely hope I haven't added to the confusion!
The birth dates you have for the children of James 4 originated with William Halstead's book
(1934) [where he got them, I don't know], and were repeated in the Sever. Ms.(1939-44) and
Hester Pier's work (1991?). The dates below were taken from Art Wardwell's letter to me of 26 August 1958. I can send you a xerox copy by snail mail if you wish, but I can't attach it to
this because my scanner doesn't work properly.
Thomas 5 b. 09 Dec.1723, d. -?-
Amos 5 b. ca. 1725, d. 1760+
James 5 b. ca. 1726, d. ca. 1786
dau. b. ca 1728, d. 1728+
Timothy 5 b. ca 1730, d. Apr.1786
I do hope this is of some help. My best regards, John [Preston Halstead]
Further information relating to the Thomas [#65] and Thomas [#114] comes from an item shared by Bruce L. Fortney of McFarland, WI 30 Aug 1986 in which he cites:"Bible and Family Records Trumball Co, Ohio" from Grace Winnagle, which Bruce found in the Western Preserve Library, Cleveland, OH...pages 341-347 "HALSTEAD":
- p.341 cites "Thomas Halstead, born near Oyster Bay N.Y, moved with his parents to Rye Westchester Co N.Y. about 1735. During the Revolutionary War he was a resident of Kakiak, Orange Co N.Y. later moving to New Paltz Ulster County N.Y. where family records say he died Oct 31 1808 ae 81 years [another source says born 1723 and died Nov 1806] He and three of his sons served in the War. His service is listed in New York in the Revolution Page 254 in the 2nd Regiment of Orange Co Militia and entitled to land bounty rights"
"He married Feb 2 1748/49 Phoebe Bogardus who was born in Harlem N.Y. and probably died in New Paltz. Definite information lacking" [Quoted verbatim]
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Relative to the change in this Thomas' parentage from James and unknown spouse to Jacob and Sarah [Coolman] Halstead...a corrected edition of Seversmith's work was released and available via the Internet in 2003 in which we find on page 1,230 under individual #15, Jacob, son of Timothy * Abigail [Carmen] Halstead, a son "#65 Thomas married" with "Phebe M. Bogardus" penned in. This correction is believed completed by Wardwell and Seversmith. Thus correcting this lineage.
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