| Name |
WHITLEY, Susan |
| Birth |
(1 Feb 1572/3) |
Ovenden, Halifax Parish, West Ridings, Yorkshire, England  [1] |
| Baptism |
(1 Feb 1572/3) |
Ovenden, Halifax Parish, West Ridings, Yorkshire, England [2, 3, 4] |
- source includes parentage
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| Gender |
Female |
| Historic event |
24 Feb 1614 |
Northowram, Halifax Parish, West Ridings, Yorkshire, England [5] |
| Admission of Susan Halstead & John Lane[Lome/Lume] of Shelf, by surrender of John Boys[sic] and wife |
- quoting John Preston Halstead IV, "When I was in England in 1992, I visited Halifax and found the site of Abraham's home in the suburb of Northowram. Part of a wall of what is probably the original house is still visible, with two bricked-up windows and a bricked-up fireplace, I also visited the Calderdale Library in Halifax and was able to hold in my hands the parchment deed of Susanna Halstead and John Lome [i.e. Lum] dated 24 Feb 1614 which stated that Westercroft [the name of the manor] was "now in the tenure of Susanna Halstead widow of Abraham Halstead deceased", indicating that Abraham and Susan were probably living there before the former's death in 1612."; see also, notes for Westercroft under Abraham Halstead.
John:
Thanks for sharing this information - - - I too believe that Abraham and Susan lived at Westercroft, and agree with your reasoning and logic in this message.
Gary
On Sat, 2 Sep 2000 11:58:01 EDT Jshals127@aol.com writes:
> Dear Ben and Gary,
> The deed to Westercroft, which is in the Calderdale Library in Halifax, is dated 24 Feb.1614/15 and reads: "Admission of Susan Halstead and John Lane[i.e. Lome, or Lume] of Shelf, by surrender of John Boys[sic] of Halifax and Ann, his wife, to copyhold a messuage called Westercroft and closes in Northowram." It also states, I think it was in a preamble, that Westercroft was "now in the tenure and occupation of Susanna Halstead widow of Abraham Halstead deceased.". Here's what I make out of this. John Boyes was a friend of Abraham who in his will charged Boyes with the "education tuition and government" of his son Joseph. Looking at the deed of 1614/15, it appears that Boyes also held the manor which included Westercroft. It would seem reasonable that Susan continued to live in the home occupied by her and Abraham after the latter died. There would be no reason for her to buy a large house like Westercroft. Therefore, since she was in occupation of Westercroft in 1614/15, that's probably where she and Abraham lived.
> Abraham apparently held the copyhold of that messuage from his friend Boyes, and when he died the copyhold was transferred to Susan, and when she married Lum the copyhold was again transferred to the two of them, as stated in the deed. And the fact that Lum is called "of Shelf" seems to mean that he was living there before his marriage to Susan rather than in Northowram. The reference to "John Lum of Westercroft" which you mention, is easily explained by the fact that in those days (indeed, until quite recently in England) whenever a couple married, the husband assumed ownership of all the wife's property, and she thereafter had very little to say about it. In this case, I think it's unusual for both a husband and wife to be named in a deed, which is one more reason to believe that Susan was the owner of the Westercroft copyhold when she married Lum, so she was in a position to lay down some conditions. BTW, I don't find any reference to John Lum on my copy of p.1262 in the Seversmith Ms. Are you sure that's the right page? Does the above answer your questions? > Regards, John
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| Name |
Susannah Whitley |
| _UID |
B44AB5D2BFDA7F448119A12D8506795CA9A4 |
| Death |
20 Jul 1626 |
Westercroft Manor, Northowram, Halifax Parish, West Ridings, Yorkshire, England [6, 7, 8, 9] |
- On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:37:59 EDT Benwaggi@aol.com writes:
Dear CL:
I am beginning to study the GEDCOM you sent on the descendants of HALSTEDEA Susan Whitley married Abraham (b.1570) Sep. 5, 1596. The GEDCOM (item 18, page 5) that I have from you states that she died 6 July 1669 in Halifax, West Riding, Yorkshire, England.
Note: Date also verified by Dwight Foquet Halstead.
Wardwell - "It seems reasonable to suppose that Edmund Wood [of Shelf, northern outskirts of Northowram] and Matthew Mitchell [of Southowram] were planning their immigration to N.E. that Jonas Halstead and John Lum his half brother were desirous of joining the party and asked Edmund Wood to include them. It is possible that they were employed by or living with Edmund Wood at the time. Jonas' step father John Lum SR. was then living at Westercroft in Northowram and had most certainly remarried after the death of Jonas' mother." [So here we are again trying to place the death of Susan [Whitley] Halstead-Lum - - - Dwight and C.L. both show that she died 6 July 1669 in Halifax, West Riding, Yorkshire, England. - I don't know how or where they arrived with this information - possibly they can shed some light here]; It would seem that this quote from Wardwell supports or at least makes the date 20 Jul 1626 more plausible than the 1669 suggested date.
LDS Ancestral File cites death 1612 Hempstead, Nassau Cty, NY - - - not possible, Hempstead not even settled until 1644; further we have the m. of Susan to 2nd husband John Lum occurring in 1615 [well after this 'cited' event].
", it appears on p.232 of "Origins of Mitchell, Wood, Lum & Halstead" that Susan's death coincided with that of an infant - "[?] infant, buried with mother, 20 Jul 1626; [["On 20 July 1626, the "uxor John Lum North: et infans" were buried at Halifax" - - - translation "uxor" pertaining to the wife, therefore "wife of John Lum North [Northowram] "et infans" 'and infant' were buried at Halifax" This clearly gives us the date and place of death for Susan [Whitley] Halstead-Lume.
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| Person ID |
I409 |
Garys-Tree |
| Last Modified |
28 Jan 2009 |
| Father |
WHITLEY, John III, b. 19 Jun 1540, Halifax, Halifax Parish, West Ridings, Yorkshire, England d. Wheatley, Halifax Parish, Yorkshire, England |
| Mother |
MAUDE, Agnes, b. (13 Mar 1541/2), Earoyd, Halifax Parish, Yorkshire, England |
| Marriage |
27 May 1565 |
Ovenden, Halifax Parish, West Ridings, Yorkshire, England [10, 11, 12] |
- " As for the maiden name of Susan Whitley's mother, Annis Hartley came from Wardwell's 1941 article in TAG. He and Seversmith disposed of this error in the Seversmsith Ms., p.1264 where they showed that her mother was Agnes Mawde" John Preston Halstead 7 Nov 2000 e-mail to Mark R. Halstead; see also Seversmith Suppl 2,002 for children [siblings of Susan Whitley]. Matthew Wood writes "Abraham Halstead married...a member of a very old and settled family of Ovenden, which Seversmith traced back several generations in his "Colonial Families"
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| Family ID |
F165 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
| Family 1 |
HALSTEAD, Abraham * - 1st husband - [A] Sr., b. 5 Sep 1570, Lancashire or Yorkshire, England d. 8 Nov 1612, Westercroft Manor, Northowram, Halifax Parish, West Ridings, Yorkshire, England (Age 42 years) |
| Marriage |
5 Sep 1596 |
Ovenden, Halifax Parish, West Ridings, Yorkshire, England [13, 14] |
- e-mail from John P. Halstead to Ben Halsted, 2 Sep 2000: "Dear Ben and Gary, The deed to Westercroft, which is in the Calderdale Library in Halifax, is dated 24 Feb.1614/15 and reads: "Admission of Susan Halstead and John Lane[i.e. Lome, or Lume] of Shelf, by surrender of John Boys[sic] of Halifax and Ann, his wife, to copyhold a messuage called Westercroft and closes in Northowram." It also states, I think it was in a preamble, that Westercroft was "now in the tenure and occupation of Susanna Halstead widow of Abraham Halstead deceased.". Here's what I make out of this. John Boyes was a friend of Abraham who in his will charged Boyes with the "education tuition and government" of his son Joseph. Looking at the deed of 1614/15, it appears that Boyes also held the manor which included Westercroft. It would seem reasonable that Susan continued to live in the home occupied by her and Abraham after the latter died. There would be no reason for her to buy a large house like Westercroft. Therefore, since she was in occupation of Westercroft in 1614/15, that's probably where she and Abraham lived. Abraham apparently held the copyhold of that messuage from his friend Boyes, and when he died the copyhold was transferred to Susan, and when she married Lum the copyhold was again transferred to the two of them, as stated in the deed. And the fact that Lum is called "of Shelf" seems to mean that he was living there before his marriage to Susan rather than in Northowram. The reference to "John Lum of Westercroft" which you mention, is easily explained by the fact that in those days (indeed, until quite recently in England) whenever a couple married, the husband assumed ownership of all the wife's property, and she thereafter had very little to say about it. In this case, I think it's unusual for both a husband and wife to be named in a deed, which is one more reason to believe that Susan was the owner of the Westercroft copyhold when she married Lum, so she was in a position to lay down some conditions. BTW, I don't find any reference to John Lum on my copy of p.1,262 in the Seversmith Ms. Are you sure that's the right page? Does the above answer your questions? Regards, John"
Note: Children listed Seversmith Suppl.p.2,002
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| Children |
| | 1. HALSTEAD, Grace * - 1st wife - [1], b. 16 May 1597, Halifax, Halifax Parish, West Ridings, Yorkshire, England d. 20 Jul 1671, Watertown, Middlesex County, Massachusetts (Age 74 years) |
| | 2. HALSTEAD, Abraham Jr., b. Bef 27 Apr 1600, Halifax, Halifax Parish, West Ridings, Yorkshire, England d. Aft 5 Apr 1651, Rotterdam, Holland (Age > 51 years) |
| | 3. HALSTEAD, Susan or Susanna, b. Abt 1603, Halifax, Halifax Parish, West Ridings, Yorkshire, England d. 5 Jul 1669, Watertown, Middlesex County, Massachusetts (Age ~ 66 years) |
| | 4. HALSTEAD, Joseph, b. 12 Jul 1607, Halifax, Halifax Parish, West Ridings, Yorkshire, England d. Bef 1687, Yorkshire, England, British Isles (Age < 79 years) |
| | 5. HALSTEAD, Jerimie or Jeremy, b. Abt 1609, Halifax, Halifax Parish, West Ridings, Yorkshire, England |
| | 6. HALSTEAD, Jonas * [Emigrant Progenitor] [1], b. Bef 23 Feb 1610/11, Northowram, Halifax Parish, West Ridings, Yorkshire, England d. Abt 1683, Hempstead, Queens [now Nassau] County, Long Island, Colonial New York (Age > 71 years) |
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| Family ID |
F164 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
| Last Modified |
7 Feb 2024 |
| Family 2 |
LUMME, John of Northowram - 2nd husband -, b. Abt 1573, Halifax, Halifax Parish, West Ridings, Yorkshire, England d. Between 1661 and 1663, Northowram, Halifax Parish, West Ridings, Yorkshire, England (Age ~ 88 years) |
| Marriage |
12 Apr 1615 |
Halifax, Halifax Parish, West Ridings, Yorkshire, England [15, 16, 17, 18] |
- On his family group sheet, Joseph Preston Halstead states Lum was from Northowram, and that they [John Lum and Susan Whitley-Halsted-Lum] did NOT migrate to America. Citing source as:Mr. Wood, article in NYGB Record, v.120,no.4 pp229-32, Oct 1989.
Wood also tells us: "On 24 February 1614/5, Susan Halstead and John "Lane" of Shelf were admitted by the surrender of John Boys of Halifax and Ann, his wife, 'to copyhold a messuage called Westercroft and closes in Northowram.' That the correct reading of the name should be Lume, not Lane, is shown by subsequent indentures." p.230
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| Notes |
- much detail on the Lumme, Lum, Lome family has been included in this database - - - but I'll NOT pursue the lineage of the John Lume who immigrated to America; suffice it to say, "our" John Lum has been eliminated, thus I'll leave further pursuit to the descendants of the immigrant, but advise them to read Matthew Wood's article regarding this subject [see source citation] [19]
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| Children |
| | 1. LUMME, Susan, b. Bef 21 Apr 1616, Halifax, Halifax Parish, West Ridings, Yorkshire, England |
| | 2. LUMME,, John [NOT the immigrant] Jr., b. 6 Jun 1619, Halifax, Halifax Parish, West Ridings, Yorkshire, England d. Bef 1627, Northowram, Halifax Parish, West Ridings, Yorkshire, England (Age < 7 years) |
| | 3. LUMME, Timothy, b. Bef 10 Jun 1621, Halifax, Halifax Parish, West Ridings, Yorkshire, England |
| | 4. LUMME, ? Grace, b. Abt 1624, Halifax, Halifax Parish, West Ridings, Yorkshire, England d. 21 May 1626, Halifax, Halifax Parish, West Ridings, Yorkshire, England (Age ~ 2 years) |
| | 5. LUMME, Infant [bur. with mother], b. 1626, Halifax, Halifax Parish, West Ridings, Yorkshire, England d. 20 Jul 1626, Westercroft Manor, Northowram, Halifax Parish, West Ridings, Yorkshire, England (Age 0 years) |
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| Family ID |
F863 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
| Last Modified |
7 Feb 2024 |
(1 Feb 1572/3) - 1626